(Recorded June 26, 2022) Sheperd talks about the podcast's creation, humans vs. robots, the new Drake tape and why music can be an acquired taste. 

00:00 - beginning
1:20 - reason for making a podcast
7:20 - human programming and robots
10:20 - another update about Sheperd
11:00 - NXNE thoughts
12:30 - reflections about the pandemic
13:10 - the musical landscape being upside down and artists creating new rules
21:30 - Honestly, Nevermind
32:00 - music is sometimes meant to be challenging, and not easily accessible
38:00 - ending 

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